What is a povicide

List of povertycides
A povertycide, is a negligent state unfair death way, and worse.
Examples include 19thC Britain,
In another change,
2/22,222died of deliberately overloaded ships for insurance,
As ship owners insured them & overloaded them, not caring if they sunk,
With crewmen often jailed if they did not sail in the ships,
After being persuaded to go on them,
Like some person told by an old schoolfriend, hey you can go on my ship When they were talking to people & only talked to this guy for a while,
So the guy goes on,
And the guy sending him their, maybe thinks he is doing a good deed,
Or maybe more likely feels he is making a buck, In the capitalist system, like a great way And this goes on for a C, & before till 1876,
In Britain, but a liberal law ended the criminal way,
By making people get restricted in that sense,
I would say the high figure was how many were lost at sea, Still, paupers forced into workhouses/asylum's,
Which were sometimes just large rooms, that were dirty, But some were getting many rooms,
& beds, split up, only improving from the 1800s a bit,
And from the 1860s, These saw families split, all the time, though with men to some, & women to others,
Strict rules, eating gruel, on mass, from meal plates,
In tables of chairs next to eachother 100s eating in the same room,
Just like prisons & schools of then,
Of often 10% death-rates,
Like the new idea for many orphanages, & children's homes opening,
Jailing the insane, who were receiving diarrhea laden beatings,

If you, add the, high death rates of them,
& street children who were common in Britain at the time, to the early next C,
Seeing high deaths rates from rather from their exploitation,
& the way they lived under bridges,

And such & could suffer winters, but often some did odd jobs, or stole,
Till they could be old enough to get proper jobs,
As factories already had enough child labour sources/ plus orphanages' slaves,
As some were rented out to factories/boat servants/cellar dwellers,

A thing that existed in many places & caused terrible health from fumes,
Or flooding etc/overcrowding's TB/poverty dismissive negligence/proto-maliciousness,
In Britain these add up too a democidal deaths of 53,750/178,970 C dead,
Plus 50/200,000, job unfairness, or safety & health work accidents etc.,

Counting in the rates of today onto that which see that stat just the above today numbers,
Which means it is very high sadly then,
My child labour stats are good estimates,
As it comes from the fact there were so many children in unhealthy jobs,
Like being in textiles places which they were chained to the machines,
& worked groggily all day,
From my estimates I guessed the deaths reaches the minimum,

Just from records from that alone, where people said in the 1840s,
Some of their pals had been beaten then died,
Or died of a awful increase in injury, and unfair disablement,
Making them unable to sustain their harder life,

Or just the minimum alone, for the coal mining stats of children dying in coal mines,
At times them dying in 100s a year in coal mines,
Higher than the level for adults as it was so dangerous,
And a high percentage of them dying,

As otherwise they were too much of a financial drain for the very poor locals,
So the stat I give is probably very secure,
As there were many child labour things,
And at times cold & windy shepherding could be dangerous & murderous,
In certain conditions, but just as dangerous as not working or school in some cases,

And another 27300/73200 of jailing gypsies laws,
Which were not used that often but were still around in the 1840s,
And also those arrested as they were blasphemous,
Indian servants of which there were some 1000s in Britain,

Of whom some after being taken to Britain were fired then had to live in Britain, though it was,
Not that hard for some, it must have been for some in some areas, of racisms, & if they could not talk,
The language etc./man-trap walkers who stood on them while out walking, injuring many horribly,
But still used in many lands to catch big animals, placed in places humans are unlikely to be caught,
And to catch small animals, so still these horrific things are very bad and can cause immense damage,
They had ruined the lives of many, and many poachers who gamekeepers set out to ruin with/,
80000orphans to colonies, who were often used on farms & in factories as child slaves, child slaves,

Too the 1930s/homelessness of higher levels than now, like for tramps, who had little help,
Compared to now, & suffered even worse than street children in winter/unclean guesthouses,
Where sheets were never cleaned & hygiene was terrible,
Like you arrive at some district of guesthouses, tired & exhausted, in the rain,

And in there, the room you pay for, after paying for a small dirty coffee, & soup,
You go to your room, & catch fever,
And are sick, & die on the way back,
Also sometimes in bunks, of lots of people, & them being cold,
So in a cold day you needed the place,
But caught a disease from no regulations, & caringness,

& lack of money for the lower orders to make it worthwhile for that much cleaning,
Also unmentioned politicals/tortures/building/severe malnutrition/unfair executions/,
20hour day seamstresses, combed orange hair, flimsy green dress,
Bulged by rounded big unmuscular shoulders, similar washerwomen's arms common then/twins killed/continental train's servants,
Welfareless,/poorer people who could not afford to divorce till the mid 20thC,

As of expensive divorce laws, so who were arrested for bigamy,
I mean in some cases it would have been unfair,
Like marrying somnolence as your spouse wants to kill you, or is having an open affair, or something,
It may have had some affect,/ people arrested,

For crimes that are not real crimes,
& but in disease soaked prisons, well there are allot of silly laws, like,
Well I suppose if they d o not put a clothes line out with a slipper on Wednesday, I made,

That up, but there were often funny laws, but then again,
If they are just silly why not just obey them,
But there must have been some,
Which were just unfair,

So I will include that as democidal in some cases, but not all,
After all in a civilised society,
All have to obey laws which seem silly but are just essential, & are not that bad,
But there must have been some almost discriminatory ones, that killed,
As of terrible prisons, like trading on a Sunday, or maybe that is acceptable, then again,

I think it is OK to say some things like such a such, maybe not allowing widows to work,
In areas, as of sex discrimination existed,
Also not allowing republican,
And not allowing gypsies/or gays/ what about others, too,
I have not even really included disabled,
& the pain cased by being unemployed in no welfare,
But some of them taken by malnutrition & such,

I think for this & below, its near top half that is most likely statistic calculation,
I say mean likely to be nearer top,
Not nearer bottom, of the stats, I see then too aswell, great stats,
I am not sure for my stat I say later for slave trading,
I mean surely some slaves sold to Africa, in1800s,
Were in a sense British or French,

Some may have been shipped to Britain & kept as page boys for a while,
Like occurred in London in 1770s,
When they were then when older shipped off to the Caribbean as slaves,
And also slave traders who were French or Brit,
I mean you could say they were criminals,

But they died at such high rates,
And maybe a small amount never knew they were slaving,
And were like soldiers in a war,
That is tough I have those stats elsewhere, & I think of only the slavers stat is included,
Certainly there were Indian servants sacked in Britain, after being brought over,

And unable to get new jobs, or speak the language,
So who would have died quickly, of poverty, unknown,
Or even gone on a dangerous journey abroad,
Maybe doing in some highish numbers, of 100s,
I have not included people who became ships merchant navy,
Or have I can not remember, that was unsafe though,
& would be a addition to where there I put it or povicides,

In the late 1790s, people were still being jailed for running away from apprenticeships,
And this happened into part of the 19thC, so that was a form of serfdom,
That makes those stats up there, probably the higher,
No lets say they account for another 25,000 death in Britain, in 19thC, to 1860s,

When it probably stopped by then, & 256,000 in Europe, & 12,000 in Ireland,
And 1,000,000 in the rest of the world, & in colonies, & such,
And 2000 in Australasia, British colonies, not Pacific, but Aus & NZ,
And you can add the povicides & child lab for outside Europe,
As higher than 20thC,

But probably way above been not including child labour & more including it,
So for them it maybe double the prices in 19thC,
& same as Europe in 19thC, for 3rd world,
Till some independence regimes, for 20thC, & for some still high,
And democides, of high levels, for Americas,

Lets say povicides, for 20thC, low, & for apprenticeships, gone in worlds,
And disappeared in the next,
So povicides, double in 19thC,
Not including epidemics which were probably as high, & same 19thC, for 20thC,
Per head of people, in those lands, as a rough guess,

Maybe less in the end of the C, as of more socialism, I would say,
And maybe some 3rd world lands, had lower povicides than Europe, in 19thC,
But on average they were less equal, more absolutists & so less free,
And probably poorer, & Hobbesians, to paragraphs that saying, there,

It is interesting,
& this may interest even those who support hanging for almost every crime,
They even hung a theif's 7year old accomplish in 1808, after a crackdown on theft,
Like of spoons, & things, some even from palaces, & a few below teenagers,

Were treated very horribly, but then again I did have a sense of morality then,
But then again me & my twin brother when we were about 8 were persuaded,
By an older boy to go into the neighbouring home, & steal the apples off his tree,
We never ate any,
& it started as some were on our side of the fence,
But we were punished by climbing someone else tree & getting their fruits down,
& we got a reward for it, but we did have consciousness I never stole anything else,
But considering he was an accomplish yes it was bad,
& the older fellow was a girl too, so a tough time,

The theory then was that there were huge criminal gangs, of people,
Led by master criminals,
& that pick pockets were coordinated in rings, well there is not really much proof,
But of course there would be friends with eachother,
Thinking up ideas how to steal not remembering how unfair it is on those robbed,

There were also those can't pay rents, to diseased prisons,
In a time of no welfare,
In the early C I suppose that could be classed as quite democidal,
I mean it was not always the case they could just get a job, or be accepted in it,

Or want to work in some horrible jobs,
And some jobs would have been terrible, with thugs in them you had to leave,
Then you would not be able to get another job as good,
& get too low pay to pay off the debt, well lots of things,

In that sense I would say my statistic is very reasonable for these poverty democides,
I have not the time to make more, of that,
But there is more to be made of these stats,
I mean life was harder, & more unfair,
As unfair as a gulag or war in some cases, compared to now,
I say there were 8/22,200poverty/secret slaves democides in the 20thC, in Britain,

Muck scrapers, clear up mud, other sweep away dust,
& kept the better off streets clean,
And overtime spread to the poorer streets, so unclean as I said before,
When councils start & such to be more elected,
Which helps transport into those places, & movement,
And also lower epidemics, & disease, & helps image, not that image matters,
Image is nothing,

Like the past the upper middle class areas where Sherlock Holmes in fiction,
Investigates & finds unusual crimes, in bowler hat, cape, & rod,
With horse & cart passing, most people in some kind of servant way or such,
& big houses where they live,
With big windows, & inside their furniture, where they say,

And smoke long pipe, wearing deer hat, & tweed suits,
& have cupboards with metal handles,
And a lady who answers the door for them & makes tea, etc.,
Who takes people up the carpeted stairs to their fire in the chimney room,

And with paintings on the wall, just like the rich in much of Europe,
Who were not as rich as the truly oppressive,
But these rich did in those days have it seems as superior minded attitude to the lowers,
Of expecting deference, etc.,
Unlike now,
And lived the way that the detectives did, thinking about the master criminals,

Although actually there are master criminals in terms, of smuggling,
& contra band & such,
With some eating swedes, turnips, neeps, & potato, stew, with a slip of bacon,
And mixed with milk, oils,
As they stop at hostelliers in the country,
As cock fighting had been abolished the gambling was now on other industries,
When hungry the food is enough, for sheep movers, & such,
No one else in it,
And many things to do then,

Where blacksmiths hammer nails onto horses hoofs as for millennia, for the horseshoes,
Black & white horses, one, has, & white the other,
With sheep behind, & such,
And coldness gripping the no gloves as forgot them fingers,
Holding a crook, to help push sheep about into the pen, with a tweed hat, & hard shoes,

In these days a fashion of long sides, down to the cheeks instead of beards,
Among some,
Like of teachers, & of some others, with rich factory owners etc.,
An metal tankards of drinks of alcohol, & apple juice even,

An American Woman, Dorothy Dix's discoveries of insane's treatment,
Of seeing the mentally ill in cellars beaten,
And sitting in sick, an shit, like in parts of the UK,
At times, somebody saying he kept a mentally ill, person in the prison, full of this stuff,

And beat him, if he started getting very angry there,
And this sort of thing was repeated even more badly at greater rates,
This prodded US reform similarly, in the 1840-50s,
Hating her own boozy family's faults, aided her investigation,

I guess there were 12000Antipodean child lab etc., ways & such, & immigrant deaths,
Like of Australians moving into the interior,
Of course people of other nationalities have been included in the other stats,
Or the early starvation diets of early settlers attracted many land grants & such like,
Lets say low 1000s, died in Australia's' white settlers, & New Zealand,
Not including deaths of British settlers,
In moving into interior as famines that I have mentioned,

So there were strong cases of not enough food, & anemia, on early colonising,
I have included some death,
As British settlers stats that I placed in another place, & some here as for that,
Surely many would have died of fatigue & such, & of movement,

In one case a sailor bought some land of someone for a bottle of rum,
He left & when he returned he found a house on the plot, so took it very unfairly I would say,
The aristos of Britain leading wanted it to have a British constitution,
And tried to stop land getting sold off in small numbers,
So that the rich would own the land, & that immigrants,
And the people would supply a continual labour source, that they controlled,
By them having no land,

But they did not achieve this, or them becoming a noble's class,
Checking on the legislator, in a upper house,
That beggared belief, even if they did achieve some of their aims, but not all,
That does not include the deaths of 100s of Chinese,
Of which there were 35000 in the 1890s the largest minority,

And fighting the large anti-Chinese feelings,
Which had been banning much of their immigration,
Some opposed them as of racism, like some said,
They can not become a yeoman class, like the British,
And it also does not include Aborigines, & Blackbirded people from the South Seas,

For S-Africa, the black amount would be the same as the rest of Africa,
With the slavery & such, & decimation by white attackers,
But the white amount would probably have been lets say 25,000 as of them,
Being so poor,
With most of that being of Dutch, people,
& the British emigrants having British rates, so a bit lower, in povicides,

It has to be remembered the reason why white S-Africans,
Have quite a high population, & slightly Africa accents,
Is that there was some breeding with other races,
And also lets say low 1000s, died in unmentioned wars,
Of which some were Dutch & some Brits,
And lets say high 1000s, in deaths of people,
Were longly descended off Brits, & mostly Dutch,

In suffering from settling, not including other events,
Plus high 1000s, as of being in some sense indentured till the more free for them 1850s,
Of course it would have been lower if they had not gone there,
Or made better friendships with Africans,

27/84,300Canadians including railways/workhouses,
So they were quite bad in terms of these things,
Canada had a terrible time, then, & more democides for its' Europeans than the Brits,
The maybe not compared to the S, of the US, especially if including blacks,

The rest of Europe bar Turkey, & Central Asia,
Plus Sami/unlisted brigandage/unfair serf demarcations unlisted,
E-Europe marriage abductions, 0.875-2.928million,
And also million, by job unfairness, lets choose the top number as most likely,

With 0.15-0.4752million 20thC, non-Russia/Soviet, plus indenture,
Which continued on, smally, there, in parts of Europe, like Hungary & the Balkans, & partially Iberia,
Mostly under early rightists, were those 20thC deaths & fatalities, & health & safety,
Then make more adds, in other ways too,

I would say that indenture can be given a death stat of 1/11,
Compared with slaverys' 1/5, & peonage a death state of 1/8, and for serfdom
Unless it's worse,
And corvee/sharecropping, 1/18, that is essentially sharecropping,
& unofficial sharecropping that is in real ways,
And 1/26 for lowest form of corvee, then, that sees exploitation, & such,
Maybe 1/52 for total least or 1/53, 1/55, 1/55. 1/56,
Unless it's just minor 1 day or 1 week every,
So often road building which most just do not do, in which case, it is far lower,

But for that I read in America they had a form of that & a US pres,
Had his father very badly injured by doing his week or something style draft way on the roads,
Getting a bit of pay for it though, well I would say that was 1/25000,
Whatever sort of system of government, as mast just did not do it,
For slavery of concubines. a serfdom, for eunuch or job like that 1/25, plus other stats,

Plus 1/10,000 for being a dictatorship automatically,
And 1/100,000 for being a state with a monarchy as head of state, who has no power,
As that always has unfair aspects to it, whatever anybody says, to do with honour,
& respect of the monarch & less respect of lowers,
1/1,000,000 for a state with no laws, automatically,

Although that will be added to as it will obviously have slaves & murders,
And 1/10,000,000, for republics etc.,
Who have some kind of Pres way that sees being strong a reason for a election,
The others have far less do democracies, I just make that stat to tirade,
1/250,000 for having some kind of strong aristo system, that has no power, or some,

Maybe Britain does not but some African tribes do, in 2004,
And 1/50,000 for having bullying going unchecked, in certain places,
Obviously that is the case in some areas, 1/50,000 for master raceness,
Like in 1980s S-Africa, or Poland in the old days,
And 1/100,000 for having some kind of segregation like in the US S, or 50s N-Ireland,
Though not say a place where segregation is not official like the S in 2005,

& 1/50,000 for a snobby culture like Britain & every country on Earth,
Except those of us not snobby are minussed from that stat,
And 1/12345 for having bullying accepted as part of society,
Well that is the case by some people, so they add to that,
1/100,000 for having bullying, Iand 1/10,000 for everyone bullied,

1/100,000 for forced marriages, 1/100,000 for being communalist enclaves,
That allow freedom in the end of the day to leave those places,
& 1/100,000 for being a rough capitalist society,
1/10,000 for a society were workers are allowed to be a treated mockingly,

And 1/10,000 for places where monarchy is a dictatorship so it had dictatorship too,
1/25,000 where unions are not allowed,
1/12345 where they have no right to say,
I have worked longer than I should today I am going home,
Which is like that for some certain dictatorships,

Accountable, open, investigating how money spent, taxed, saw the US more efficient,
The elected, chose their Civil-service,
& had some members there automatically by merit,
And there disciplinary systems that could be changed etc., by democracy,

All this means that more people, partly as of Highland Clearances died in Braitain of 19th Century povicides and war, child labour and Iruish famine diseases in Britain which killed many in Britain as peopel came to Britain, from the dreadful British governanve in Ireland, than in 20th c in Britain

For the world 4 times as many per head died of democides and povicides worldwide in the 19thc than in the 20thC, as of Chinese Indian famines, poverty slavery and such, and serfdom, even Europe saw more die in 19thC than 20thC per head, partly as of cholera which was caused in most cases by wars spreading ity and poverty and famines
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